Liens on Rally Site

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By Kyle Midura

BILLINGS - Contractors file more than a million dollars worth of liens on the site of a summer music festival outside Roberts.

Bullpen Rally organizer Mike Decker set out to hold a massive music festival. Despite legal disputes and inspection issues, the concert started nearly on time.

However, contractors said payment hasn't been as prompt. Kallevig Excavation and Sowles Construction have filed liens on the property outside Roberts. Sam Kallevig said his company and others are owed a total of $874,328.00. Sowles Construction filed for $168,178.00.

John Dubsky is a contractor who billed Mike Decker for a little more than $5,000. "There are more than a dozen others that are struggling to get their money from him too, nobody has any idea where all the money went," he said. Dubsky said he quit over a payment dispute before the concert began.

"It's not a question of 'hey, he got a bunch of money and didn't pay anybody,'" said investor Michelle Holpzinger, "it's simply there wasn't enough people that showed up, so there wasn't any money to pay." "I'm sure he'll pay everyone in full at some point in time," she said and added that she didn't know when that might be.

Holpzinger said she hasn't seen a dime either, but was impressed with Decker. She said pulling off the concert was quite the feat. The show was planned in a shorter period than normal and large in scope.

"He gave everybody just a little bit of money to keep going and kept promising, promising that as soon as the Bull Pen Rally was over he was going to pay off everyone," said Dubsky. The concert ended, but the dispute was just beginning.

Multiple contractors said Decker told them they'd be paid after the Sturgis Rally. We can't confirm that because multiple calls to Mr. Decker have gone unreturned. Mr. Decker is commonly out of touch because he works with a railroad company in Wyoming.

The contractors KULR-8 spoke with said his explanation was that investors had money tied up in that event as well. "Being a general contractor and developer myself, I know there are some times when things get a little tough and it may take a little longer to get people paid," said Holpzinger.

"He can sell an ice cube to an Eskimo," said Dubsky.

The contractors waited again, but when the Sturgis Rally ended they said they still hadn't been paid. The liens followed shortly thereafter. They're placed on the site of the Bull Pen Rally, a property owned by Double D Development L.L.C., not Decker. Decker leased the land.

"Unfortunately we have to drag the land owners into the situation, but we gotta do what we gotta do," said Dubsky. If the contractors’ claims are found valid, the property could be subject to a foreclosure sale. The company did not respond to a message seeking comment.

Holpzinger said contractors should have known late payment was a risk at any event, and that payment can be slow if a show doesn't generate as much revenue as expected. She said big events rarely make money in the first year and would consider re-investing.

"Mike didn't intentionally do anything to make this event fail, in fact, he did the opposite," said Holpzinger, "he did everything possible to make it a success."

In order to file the liens, contractors had to notify Mr. Decker and the group that owns the land. If Decker or company management decide to challenge the liens, contractors would have to provide further proof of the debts.

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unknown said on Monday, Apr 25 at 6:50 AM

Mike Decker is in Alliance nebraska running the Italian restraunt

American Joe said on Monday, Jan 17 at 10:56 AM

Honest Americans is right! Someone start a online petition so we can sign it and submit to them.

Mr Do. said on Monday, Jan 17 at 10:53 AM

You know... contatct the bands, http://www.bullpenrally.com/, and express your concerns and ask them not to show due to all the BS. That will work! I see them advertising already.. Boooo Boooo BOOOOOOO

Honest Americans said on Friday, Jan 14 at 5:19 PM

I urge Carbon County to rethink allowing The Bull Pen to continue with this! Please consider the amount of people and contractors they owe money to. There is obviously money somewhere. Bands have been booked. Tickets have been printed. The website is refreshed and up to date. All this happening for free? We doubt it. Why havent people been paid?

Honest Americans said on Friday, Jan 14 at 5:12 PM

Here's how concerned and how much the Deckers and anyone investing in the Bull Pen cares about the employees and contractors they owe money to for hard work performed for them in order to make the Bull Pen a success They knew they owed people money! And on the nights of the concerts they continued to allow them to play long after curfew which resulted in fines they got every night! Fines they could of used the money for to pay who they owe! Shame on anyone , the bands , the investors , anyone who will allow this to happen again. !

Large Event Permit said on Tuesday, Jan 11 at 1:37 PM

I wonder if Carbon County could issue a permit on a contingency that last years debts be paid prior to this years doors open?

To Wow said on Tuesday, Jan 11 at 10:12 AM

I'm sure there are plenty of people out there with the name Randy. But the person who originally wrote that post is not named Randy.

Wow! said on Sunday, Jan 9 at 1:44 PM

I wonder if there is more than one Randy out there? No Way!

To Oh my name is... said on Sunday, Jan 9 at 8:51 AM

Who are you? You did not write this.

Oh..my name is Randy... said on Thursday, Jan 6 at 11:41 AM

Anonymous, are you suggesting we should just roll over and be happy that we had this "wonderful" chance to work at an event that had no chance of succeeding? And no it was NOT a success, when you owe hundreds of thousands of dollars you CAN NOT claim success. And putting blame on anyone else for this massive failure is ridiculous. If it was approached properly there would have been no issues. The bottom line is this, I can't go to the doctor and say thanks for the service but I'm not going to pay until a year from now. Do you know what they'd say (after they laugh in your face) let's put you on a payment plan. I don't think the family didn't work a single hour since the last event that they couldn't pay something to those they owe money to. No one is saying they want this to fail, it has absolutely nothing to do with the success or failure, it has everything to do with what is right and expecting people to wait an entire year to get paid for their work is just plain wrong!

Something for the Deckers to read...Now who is imao... said on Thursday, Jan 6 at 11:40 AM

call 406/444-2840 said yesterday at 4:09 AM 39-3-206. Penalty for failure to pay wages at times specified in law. (1) An employer who fails to pay an employee as provided in this part or who violates any other provision of this part is guilty of a misdemeanor. A penalty must also be assessed against and paid by the employer to the employee in an amount not to exceed 110% of the wages due and unpaid. (2) Nothing in this section may be construed to relieve an employer from the requirement to pay an employee the full amount of wages due if the employer is found in violation of this part.

lol said on Wednesday, Jan 5 at 6:59 AM

What are you talking about..get another job ! I just saw all the whining go on and and that this was from how many months ago and yes I am evil :) lmao

tissues anyone? said on Tuesday, Jan 4 at 10:21 PM

how mean is that? wow...lol..not only mean, but a little on the evil side. i bet you are...lol...we all know what you are...lol...get another job right?? lol...whatever

lol said on Tuesday, Jan 4 at 1:58 PM

tissues anyone !

How is this right? said on Tuesday, Jan 4 at 9:19 AM

From the comments I have read on here it seems like someone is really mad that they have not paid anyone. They seem like everyone should not be mad. The response is "get another job"..what if the other job does not pay either? What is the suggestion? Should someone keep on working if they do not get paid? I think they are lucky that people who did not get paid are not taking away from families like so many were effected. It does not matter if the amount due was a few hundred or several thousands, no one was paid and that effects everyone really bad. How can they get away with this? I do not know.

Sorry said on Saturday, Jan 1 at 4:16 PM

Really, what is the proper time after getting ripped off to forget about it? My post violation etiquette must not be up to date!

Sorry said on Saturday, Jan 1 at 4:12 PM

Really, how long after getting ripped off would you suggest to forget about it?

Still havent got paid said on Saturday, Jan 1 at 4:08 PM

not gonna go away till they pay. Thats the way it works.

really said on Saturday, Jan 1 at 3:52 PM

I cant believeyou people are stll complaining..get a life !!

Anonymous said on Saturday, Jan 1 at 12:17 PM

THATS a public statement? An unconfirmed post on a public forum? I guess the "Public Relations Officer" "Mike" refers to is a bit shy. I was wondering if they have made a statement to the press or news directly addressing the issues or are they afraid someone might ask a reasonable question.

Anonymous said on Saturday, Jan 1 at 9:18 AM

Sorry I dont sit hear waiting for comments unlike some...go under the concert date set despite disputes on kulr 8 !!

Anonymous said on Thursday, Dec 30 at 4:51 PM

crickets

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Dec 29 at 9:09 PM

where?

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Dec 29 at 4:30 PM

Yes they made a statement..

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Dec 29 at 3:40 PM

has bullpen made any public statements?

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Dec 29 at 3:34 PM

is the coment box full?

Anonymous said on Monday, Dec 27 at 2:17 PM

I thought he wrote bad checks?

Anonymous said on Monday, Dec 27 at 2:01 PM

he had to write checks to make them bad !!

Anonymous said on Monday, Dec 27 at 9:22 AM

point taken. Again,sue the county for what? Did the rules that he broke make him write bad checks?

Anonymous said on Monday, Dec 27 at 8:00 AM

He already went to court for the noise level, there were only two, one was dismisssed and he paid the other so that wont go back to court or be used against him, another thing is the sherriffs that were hanging out by the riad went they issued the tickets even said they could barely hear it, the whole thing was a joke.

a1a said on Sunday, Dec 26 at 3:13 PM

I agree that the noise cutoffs were a bit early but sue the county for what? May be tough to prove in court that the music cut off that was broken at least three of the nights was to blame for the promoters decision to breach contracts! The noncompliance of those laws could possibly be used as an example in court as to the Deckers lack of respect for their own promises and respect for contractual obligations when all the suits get to court.

shut music down early said on Sunday, Dec 26 at 8:26 AM

Shutting the music too early due to a made up law. Killed a great concert. Sue the county

From another KULR8 story said on Saturday, Dec 25 at 5:22 PM

Mike Decker says a successful week has proved his critics wrong. "You know something. I got through it, I proved it was going to happen. I proved I wasn't full of crap so yeah I was very happy, it was a great success for all," said Decker.

Anonymous said on Friday, Dec 24 at 7:08 AM

Why did they call it a rally? It seemed more of a campground with live music that was close to the Beartooth Rally. No real rally activities that I saw.

Kookie said on Thursday, Dec 23 at 6:16 PM

Yeah, justice moves at a snails pace but man, when it hits, it hurts. Wonder if he has ever read this clause that is in many bands contracts: If before the date of any scheduled performance it is found that PURCHASER has not performed fully its obligations under any other agreement with any party for another engagement or that the financial credit of the PURCHASER has been impaired, ARTIST may cancel this agreement. In the event that PURCHASER does not perform fully all of its obligations herein, ARTIST shall have the option to perform or refuse to perform hereunder and in any event PURCHASER shall be liable to ARTIST for damages in addition to the compensation provided herein.

a1a said on Thursday, Dec 23 at 5:56 PM

Kookie, I was just thinking how similar this is to the 12th planet scenario just dumber.

Kookie said on Thursday, Dec 23 at 5:51 PM

It's all classic denial. Every rookie promoters disease - the next show will make it all right. He is breaking the law by not paying his legal debts and a reckoning will come. Just look at Phil Keith for example, took awhile but he's toast now.

fool me once..... said on Thursday, Dec 23 at 5:43 PM

ahhh the socialistic business plan! I'm a bit more of a capitalist. Get a second job,earn your own money and THEN you can burn it but until you can wear big boy pants and pay your own way, I want MY money!!!

Anonymous said on Thursday, Dec 23 at 2:05 PM

There's nothing I can say to change what has happened but like I said a second year is going to happen and they are going to take care of things unfortunatly it has taken to long and I understand how your feeling like I said I also worked there but Im not going to give up on another second year they learned alot from the first and will do good on what is owed.

Dear Santa.... said on Thursday, Dec 23 at 12:27 PM

Dear Santa...We said that we would be paid. They said they were close to paying us over and over again. They were so happy for us all to work for nothing. Now Santa, they are paying bands and others to perform in the summer. Santa, all I want is to get paid. They are mad at us because all we want is our money. Dear Santa, please have Mike Decker pay us. That is all we want for christmas.

a1a said on Wednesday, Dec 22 at 6:25 PM

we need this to be a great second year? are you out of your mind? what percentage rate are you willing to pay the people that financed last years joke? in real money not bulldecker promises. (you cant charge lawyers and bill collectors at the gate!)

Not Bashing said on Wednesday, Dec 22 at 4:30 PM

I don't see how asking for what is owed us is bashing the event/organizers. The concert was five months ago. It was poorly planned out and we are left to suffer. If the workers wanted the concert to fail they would not have worked so hard to make sure it even happened. The only way to make it a success the second time around is to make sure everyone gets paid. No one will support this the way people have been treated so far.

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Dec 22 at 7:22 AM

"no" to what ? The contractors is just what I said and it was not no at all. Believe it or not the are trying very hard to take care of thing and FYI some people have got paid..I know thats not all but like I said we need this to be a great second year and they are doing alot diffrent this outcome can fix last years..this is great income for the entire state to make money, I just wish that everyone would stop bashing it the only way to fix it is to support a second one and fix it from there...its not a bad idea !

a1a said on Wednesday, Dec 22 at 1:13 AM

so in other words.... NO!

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Dec 21 at 9:44 PM

They have been in close contact with the contractors and year 2 is already being planned out , the only way to fix a bad first year is to have a great second one. They know things were messed up but unless you were there or worked there you have know idea !

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Dec 21 at 2:27 PM

Anyone know if they paid these liens and the labor yet?

Anonymous said on Monday, Dec 20 at 1:55 PM

After the way they handled the first year, I doubt they can get any loans, permitting and sponsors for a second year. One of the bartenders put it best when they said "a monkey on meth could have done a better job"

a1a said on Sunday, Dec 19 at 8:59 AM

@ Merry Christmas, Every business that worked with the Deckers had hardships BECAUSE of the DECKERS. Luckily many of them had enough brains to have backup plans to pay bills. Decker's plan??? Played craps with other peoples money!! And when they lose it they pretend to be some kind of victim. Pathetic

Merry Christmas said on Saturday, Dec 18 at 10:38 PM

Its not like there living the high life on the money you were owed and the money they didnt make, and im sure this issue will be resolved,every buisness has its hardships and this is no diffrent.

a1a said on Saturday, Dec 18 at 10:01 PM

Whether Deckers took you for $10 or hundreds of thousands they still took you! The issue isn't if you could afford to be riped off but THAT you were ripped off.

Anonymous said on Saturday, Dec 18 at 4:42 PM

The couple hundred you didnt get paid is still affecting your CHristmas then you have other issues then to place all the blame on the bull pen, as most of the bar tenders I was there for the tips and most of the people I talked were unemployed so yeah I hope the situation gets fixed soon as do they !

Second Job.. said on Saturday, Dec 18 at 9:46 AM

I love the response...I worked there and did not get paid! But, hey..get a second job. What a silly say to say. We are all working to pay bills. It is like someone is mad at the large amount of people whom did not get paid. I find that very funny in an odd sort of way. People just expect to get paid after they do a job, especially when they were told they would get paid. How evil not to hold up any part of that deal. I just do not understand how this could happen and how they got away with this. Merry Christmas. I believe in God and I pray tonight for some money so maybe I can get some christmas presents. But, if not, I have my family and friends and a smile on my face!

Anonymous said on Saturday, Dec 18 at 7:37 AM

These people did intentionally lie about how funded they were from the beginning. So yes, they intensionally ripped people off. Bad press or not, (I don't think the press hurt ticket sales as much as bad advertising and gross sales overestimates)these people didn't have the funding or integrity to hold any large event. If you are going to gamble folks... use your own money and if you use other peoples money (or time) you better be able to pay and do it when payment is due.

Anonymous said on Friday, Dec 17 at 10:43 PM

Do you really think they ripped you off intentionally !! I worked there to and did not get paid but in do time I know we will. We all knew from all the negative publicity that the turnout numbers were low where do you expect then to get it from...and now thats its the holidays everyone is all hard up about it...get a second job :)

a1a said on Friday, Dec 17 at 2:27 PM

its a big d#$n deal to some of us that the deckers riped off!

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Dec 15 at 9:31 PM

Big dam deal !

a1a said on Wednesday, Dec 15 at 12:21 PM

county attorney has mike's number now!

Anonymous said on Sunday, Dec 12 at 2:39 PM

i have mikes number does anyone want it. mike its time to pay us its x mas time

Crickets Chirping said on Saturday, Dec 11 at 8:43 AM

Booking bands for next year, meanwhile the people who helped him even have a concert this year still haven't been paid. Pay up Decker!!! Do you have any idea how miserable the last few months have been for those you haven't paid. And I'm not talking about those who you own a couple hundred dollars. Those of us you own thousands to have been struggling financially. But you have the nerve to try this AGAIN?!?! Maybe you should pay off your debts first. There are many people who put in a lot of time and effort to make sure the first concert even happen and what have we received? Crickets chirping, nothing, nothing but empty promises. Well that doesn't feed the family. You knew going into this that you probably wouldn't make money, but you didn't have the finances lined up to pay the workers, very poor planning on your part and we are left to suffer.

a1a said on Wednesday, Dec 1 at 5:12 PM

looks like this moron is booking bands for next year! http://www.pollstar.com/resultsCity.aspx?ID=47239&SortBy=Date&SearchBy=red%20lodge

Radio Message said on Tuesday, Nov 23 at 2:51 PM

Someone told me that the bartenders are going to court on the 17th of December. They heard this on a radio station?? Does anyone have information on this?

WHY!!! said on Saturday, Nov 20 at 10:50 AM

Why did this event happen? Was there any planning for extra bills (wages)? Is this guys a con-man? Where is he now? Is the state doing something about this (wages thing).

a1a said on Thursday, Nov 4 at 7:09 AM

Now I'm not sure but I think someone other than Decker owned the liqueur licence and wonder if the bartenders need to have been employed by the owner rather than the event promoter. If I were a bartender there, I would look into the liquor licence laws in Montana.

Montana Labor Standard Bureau said on Wednesday, Nov 3 at 8:35 AM

For all of you that have not gotten paid. Call the Labor Bureau and fill out a wage claim form. If everyone does this maybe someone out there will be able to help. I wish you all the best and do not give up hope and faith on other employers.

Bartenders never paid said on Tuesday, Nov 2 at 7:04 AM

The Montana Dept. of Labor will be getting the list of all of the bartenders that were never paid. After that investigation has been completed, a class action suit will be filed. My advise is to get the employees paid. There is no excuse.

Phone Number.. said on Saturday, Oct 30 at 6:26 AM

Tory, they will not post his phone number on here. Really, does not matter if you have his number and call him, he does not call back. Has not paid anyone. I am not owed a lot, but I also did not plan on working for NOTHING. They make comments on here like it is our fault for not getting paid. Really is very sad. I am sure they all get paid for job they have done. Or maybe they live off the government....hmmm...never thought of that one before. I do not know how to get paid. I have no idea who to contact, do we call the state and report this?? Anyone, out there with some information would be you please pass it along.

Tory said on Monday, Oct 25 at 4:10 PM

Does anyone happen to have Mike's number by chance?

Who is Anonymous Oct 19 Writing about? said on Friday, Oct 22 at 9:04 PM

Are you calling "Larry" or Pro-Bull Pen a Moron? Have you seen that sign also? Is it really there...now that is a HUGE LOL if this is true...LOL

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Oct 20 at 7:53 AM

I really like the sign on hwy 212.MIKE DECKER BAD DEBT

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Oct 19 at 7:09 PM

Okay, apparently you know everything, you need to get a grip, you sound like a complete moron, lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol!!

Pro-Bull Pen Reply said on Tuesday, Oct 19 at 12:19 AM

For being the first year everything went great...LOL...it will be better next year...LOL...no one came. we did not pay our bills..but hey! lets do this again...lol...lol...lol

laughing out loud! said on Tuesday, Oct 19 at 12:15 AM

Seriously..what does he owe you a few hundred..LOL...Have you talked to other people about this. Do you work for nothing? You are sooo mad! Seriously...how many liens?? LOL..LOL...LOL

I'm not a liar..!! Ha Ha said on Tuesday, Oct 19 at 12:11 AM

Sounds like you are all worked up about this! LOL..No phone call back. Talk to a few contractors no one has been paid. Do you think that Decker gets paid for doing a job? I have money, I just want to get paid for a job I did! He gets paid every week or whenever his scheduled paydays are. What a crock. I bet if I talk to everyone envoliar ..whatever.. I am not a liar

Anonymous said on Sunday, Oct 17 at 9:08 PM

Im not a liar, I actually talked to him tonight !! Seriously, how much can he actually owe you a couple hundred ?? If your that hard up you should get another Job !

a1a said on Tuesday, Oct 12 at 2:19 PM

Huge success except that nobody came and they cant pay their bills!

Still no reply... said on Thursday, Oct 7 at 8:56 AM

I am still waiting to get paid. How long does a person have to pay someone for doing a job? Thought I would check out other comments on here to see if anyone had some information. I will call again and leave another message. Who ever said that Mike Decker calls them back is a liar.

Just checking said on Thursday, Sep 23 at 10:12 AM

Sept 15 was the last post. Said 'they' are close. Still have not heard from anyone. When someone owes you money do they not normally call you once in awhile to let you know what is going on. Do they return your phone calls? What a complete sad thing. I feel so bad for these people who ran this bullpen thing. How can people use others in such a bad way? I read some of the other posts and I do have to say that the posts are just mean from the people who seem to have run this thing. They are mad because people just want to get paid. It is like they are laughing i everyones face. I will end this with, it is just so sad.

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Sep 15 at 2:57 PM

Right now they are dealing with a couple of investors of which once they have a agreement they will then cut checks, they are close! As for sponsors yes they had some but keep in mind all the money went to bands, building the grounds and everything you saw there. It's not like they are living the hight life. They are working very hard on this.

A few Days of work. said on Wednesday, Sep 15 at 8:10 AM

I did work a full week. Had to pay daycare, gas to get to the event and food. No, I am not losing my car over this. I just expected to be paid. That is all. It makde it tough to make ends meet when I was without that paycheck. I was just told that I was getting a check in the mail and I was counting on it. My bad....I have called Mike Decker. No one has ever called me back. I have no idea what is going on. People on here say 'they' are working on it. What are 'they' doing? Did anyone work with someone with experience? Did they get any sponsors? Not just getting investors, but a great way to have an event is to get a big sponsors. My cousins are part of the Braun Brothers Band and I was telling them what happened and they asked who the sponsors were right away. Did you not get paid from them.....I think a lot of this is common sense stuff and not too many people have it...

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Sep 15 at 6:48 AM

Like a couple hundred bucks is going to make a completly life altering change !! If you car or house is is already in process of being taken away..it's not going to change that from happening ..So dont blame them for your past problems !

Larry... said on Tuesday, Sep 14 at 10:27 PM

You said that I posted "anonymous"...did you not do the same...OK..my name is also Larry. You were told not expect to get paid? because they did not plan right for an event like this? wow...Like I said I will be protesting. And, no..I worked. I did not watch the bands and party. The camping sites were such a joy to be in...what a joke.

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Sep 14 at 6:21 AM

Exactly Larry, They are working on it, where do you expect this money to magically to appear from.THEY MADE NO MONEY OFF THIS. It was the first year! Put yourself in his shoes. ANd as for going out and picketting the event, you a moron , Noone would care anyway , you just want to go to hear the bands because it will happen next year :)

Larry said on Tuesday, Sep 14 at 3:42 AM

This was a 4 DAY event! You all act like he owes you 4 months of pay! He owes you what, like 300 to 400 dollars? I suppose most of you camped at the event? Did you work 24 hours a day? Doubt it. Bet you got to watch or listen to almost all of the concerts and were even on the clock for the time. It hasn't even been 60 days yet, he's working on it. Yes, I worked there, no I haven't gotten paid yet, but this isn't the first time I have worked an event like this and I understood the risks of low attendance when I agreed to work. I will be back if there is a next year and will happily work there again. Still going to protest after he pays, or since you post anonymously, will you be one of those that once you get paid you will act like you never posted this?

Anonymous said on Monday, Sep 13 at 9:33 PM

I sure do hope that I will be paid soon. If there is a next year, I am going to plan my vacation around the event and protest with huge signs. I will get all my family to help. they are all pretty mad at what these people have done. have fun next year. has anyone contacted the labor board yet?

Anonymous said on Monday, Sep 13 at 9:28 PM

i agree with 'did no one plan for bills'. the contractor who said that he has to wait for payment is on drugs. i am sure that he has the money to do that. does his employees have the money also when he can not pay them. this is just a bad tumbling effect. why did they not hire any montana boys to do the work??? we were all told that we were going to paid right away.

Did no one plan for bills... said on Monday, Sep 13 at 9:20 PM

Really?? I was hired by Mike Decker to do a job. The job was at the BullPen. Tell me who works until the boss can pay? I was told I would be paid after the event. I should get a check in the mail the week after it ended. Do you work and not expect to get paid. I have to live from paycheck to paycheck. I have never asked for any extra help , like food stamps and that kind of handouts. I am an outstanding person. I had to pay my mortgage and feul and other bills. I could not tell them all to wait due to the person that hired me did not sell enough tickets. Who in there "right" mind would do that to people. And, YES, I have called Mike Decker. Every day this week and last week....NO RETURN PHONE CALL BACK. I know this event did not sell enough tickets. That is not my problem. I worked hard for this and did not get paid. NO..I do not plan ahead for losers not to pay me. I am sure that Mike gets paid from the railroad when he goes to work. HEY>>>DID THEY HIRE HIM??? I am sure that he gets a

Anonymous said on Monday, Sep 13 at 6:55 PM

Who told you that you would get paid right after the event , I was never told that! Who have you left messages with ? If you leave Mike a message he will call back !! Did noone plan ahead for bills??

Anonymous said on Monday, Sep 13 at 5:16 PM

It is not true when people say that everyone knew we would not be paid right away. I was told that I would get a check in the mail right after the event.

Need Advice comment to Jerry said on Monday, Sep 13 at 5:11 PM

Mr. Sailer good for you that you have that income from your business. If you hire employees do you have them wait 60-120 days, maybe longer? I had to come up with money to pay for feul, mortgage and of course, day care. I hired someone to watch my children and I still had to pay them. Also, when everyone was told that they were going to be paid, when he never had the money. Why not tell the truth from the get go. I had to borrow money from people. I have no family to help me out. I am not belly aching or complaining to everyone. I admit, I did cry a little bit. I just need advice on how to get paid. No one has called me back. I have left several messages to call me back. No one has yet. I am glad that you are doing well with your business. I am working now and trying to get caught up, but I do not think you understand what it is like to go without...I am sure you would be doing something...Advice? Please let me know. Thanks

Local said on Monday, Sep 13 at 3:17 PM

Pepole have tried to call.Gotta pick up a phone .Dosnt he have a puter.

Dana said on Sunday, Sep 12 at 9:31 AM

All they have to do is call him !! He will tell you whats going on !

local said on Sunday, Sep 12 at 9:02 AM

Why dosn't Mike defend himself.I think Pepole would like 2 hear from him.

Dana said on Friday, Sep 10 at 1:15 AM

Very well put Jerry !!

Jerry Sailer said on Thursday, Sep 9 at 8:28 PM

To all who seem to be crying over this situation, i too worked the event and have not been paid, but i have faith i will in the future. In south Dakota where i live, i am self employed contractor, and yes we do not always get paid on time, and some clients take over 60 to 120 days to pay, do i lose my car or my home from this, No!!!, i budget and plan ahead. Crying over it will not make it happen any faster, and i have learned over the years to get over it and move on, yes the money will be there, and the deckers will make good on all debts, this i know for a fact, i am in contact with them almost daily, and i trust them completely.

Anonymous said on Thursday, Sep 9 at 6:22 PM

Ive got paid !

Not paid either... said on Thursday, Sep 9 at 2:53 PM

did anyone get paid yet? i sure have not. so when a company does not make money do they not have to pay? i am with NEED ADVICE. what do we do?

Anonymous said on Wednesday, Sep 8 at 10:02 AM

Need Advice :What did you do at the Bull Pen ? Just curious !

Need ADVICE said on Wednesday, Sep 8 at 9:21 AM

I have not been paid. I need some advice of what direction I need to take now. I haven't got a letter or phone message to let me know what is going on. I am sad about this. It really put me in a finance horror story. I am in the process of losing my home because it is so hard to pay back what i owe. Please let me know.

Randy said on Thursday, Sep 2 at 3:59 AM

Not just the family, but investors that placed there own money in this years event and haven't gotten a return yet, they are still working to make everything right so they can see their investments prosper.

Randy said on Thursday, Sep 2 at 3:56 AM

If he could pay everyone everything he owes today he would. The fact is, like Michelle says in the article, there is no money to pay anyone, YET! The whole family is working on bringing in new capital and once that is done everyone will get paid and there will be a next year.

One of the Contractors said on Wednesday, Sep 1 at 8:33 PM

I am not afraid to use my name in this comment about the Bull Pen , I was there along with my other co-workers and we all worked hard there . I am not going to say that Decker is a cheat and a fraud , I will say that his goal of proving that the concerts would take place blinded him to the scope of the work that he wanted to take place and it got away from him . I pray everyday and everynight that he is being honest but it is hard to believe in that when it has been so long and people have not been paid . I know that the family sacrificed alot for this event and in the hopes that it will be a yearly event , I sacrificed time with my family in an effort to get the job done and that means alot to me . If people are getting nervouse about getting paid it could be because others haven't really given them the reason to feel otherwise . The longer it takes the more people are going to get tired of waiting, and the worse public opinion will become. Something no one wants .

Randy said on Wednesday, Sep 1 at 3:46 PM

I see a lot of talk from people not willing to use your own names, when you are willing to talk to me directly I will answer your questions and accusations. I'm not afraid to use my name. No I did not get paid, no family members did, we went into debt paying things from our own pockets, not even as investors, we were employees too.

Employees Paid? said on Wednesday, Sep 1 at 1:16 PM

Since I was not a family member does this mean I will not be paid? Randy Decker, I am sure you got paid.

Fraud.. said on Wednesday, Sep 1 at 1:13 PM

All I have to say is FRAUD.

More Recent Words from Decker.. said on Wednesday, Sep 1 at 1:12 PM

I am going to sign papers on Tueday. I will get ahold of you then. And by the way Randy..Contractors got paid for "some" supplies needed to finish, no money was ever paid for services or the other supplies. I was a pretty trusting person until this. I am thinking civil court in the very near future.

Angry Worker said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 4:18 PM

I have been in contact with Mike. Every few days or so I give him a call and find out what's going on. And it's always the same story, looking for investers, somthing about sturgis, and nothing about when we will be paid. You said some employee's have been paid? Well I've been in contact with a good deal of the people that worked during and before the show and I haven't met one that has seen a dime. People worked and deservied to be paid or at least kept in the loop as to what's been going on. Mike hasn't even took one step to ensure the little people that worked for him that our pay is coming, that he's working on it. Bottom line I, and alot of others are tried of the run around with Mike Decker.

Randy said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 12:31 PM

What this story does talk about is how much the contractors were paid. All received at least partial payments. Some employees have been paid and some have received partial pay, whatever money is available is paid to contractors and employees, including money from Mike's personal job, out of his own paycheck. It's not like Mike ran off with all this money, every penny brought in was paid to bands and contractors. There will be a day when everyone gets paid what they are owed. I am done discusing this on an open forum.

Note to Randy said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 11:08 AM

You made a comment to Angry Worker about contacting Mike. Really!?? I am sure that you go to work and get paid. You expect payment on payday don't you? We all have called Mike and get the same story. Waiting for the investors, this Tuesday, check will be in the mail. Never once was I told that I would have to wait for payment. And as for Holpzinger, when does a contractor should know that getting paid would be later? When was anyone ever told that??

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 9:54 AM

I have a great idea. I am going to hire Mike Decker to build me a house...and then guess what? I am not going to pay him for the work he did. He needs to be in jail right now.

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 9:52 AM

Some of these comments are great! When we we all told that we "might" have to wait to get paid? LOL..Every week "Mike" had a different story. We were told that we would get paid right after the event. Does Mike get paid when he goes to work?! I am sure he does. I do not see him working for nothing.

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 8:11 AM

First of all Mike in not a conman,it's people like you who think thet know it all and dont know the facts. You not worth my energy DPS. You know nothing about the bull pen.

DPS said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 7:10 AM

If two or three of said we smelled a rat and that is what your calling a vicious rumor so be it. This conman bit off more then he could scam and now has to pay up.

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 6:26 AM

DPS, your not right at all, you know nothing about the Bull Pen ! You assumed that it would be a disaster, which it was not! I can't wait to work it again next year. To all the employees that are upset, you should be getting ahold of Mike.

Anonymous said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 6:13 AM

Thank You Randy :)

Randy said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 6:07 AM

DPS, you said the concerts wouldn't happen, they did, no one who bought tickets was disappointed or cheated. Unfortunately due to people like you and the rumors there were not enough people in attendance to pay the bills. Mike and others are working with investors and finance people to ensure that everyone gets what they are owed and next year this will happen again. Not a scam, just taking longer than planned to deal with everything.

DPS said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 5:50 AM

anonymous I don't think there is anything I can say on any subject that you would agree with. I have an opinion, I expressed it, K8 printed it. Have I constantly put down your little thoughts?NO! So let it go I'm right on here, I said it was a scam and disaster waiting to happen and it did.

Randy said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 5:26 AM

Angry worker, have you been in contact with Mike? All employees will be paid, just taking longer than planned, try contacting someone directly and getting the facts instead of shooting your mouth off here. I have a feeling you won't be missed next year.

Angry Worker said on Tuesday, Aug 31 at 3:08 AM

It's not just the contractors that haven't been paid. I worked labor for Mike before the show and worked during the show as well and I haven't seen a dime. I know the money I'm owed isn't near whats owed to the contractors but I still want to be paid for the weeks of work I put in. What leagal action can I take to ensure I get what's owed to me? And if he's planning on doing this agian next year, good luck. No one I know will work for him after the way he treated and didn't pay his employees.

Anonymous said on Monday, Aug 30 at 1:14 PM

Oh, and here is the final word from Mr.Knowitall ...DPS ! ugh, whatever

DPS said on Monday, Aug 30 at 11:59 AM

I knew this day would come. I TOLD YOU SO!!!! HAH-HAH-HAH

Anonymous said on Sunday, Aug 29 at 1:35 PM

Oh, it's already being planned. The first year is always the worst ! It a learning curve and their investors are aware of this and plan on backing them again !

Red Lodger said on Sunday, Aug 29 at 10:09 AM

Given their payment performance this year (and they way they treated the locals), what makes anyone think there will be a next year?

Anonymous said on Saturday, Aug 28 at 12:17 PM

Everyone who worked there knew that the turn out that was expected didnt happen.Cant pay when you dont make enough money but they will get paid, there working on it now.

BikerNun said on Saturday, Aug 28 at 8:28 AM

Employees weren't paid either!!!!!

Pro- Bull Pen said on Friday, Aug 27 at 10:28 PM

For being the first year everything went great and it will only be better next year.

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